Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 12/29/1998 - 07:03 Forums: LML Archive From: Tristan cavers <ticavers [at] hotmail.com> Subject: 235-360 fuel & misc Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:03:25 -0800 To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> After reading 41 weeks of postings in the past 10 days I,m suffering a bit of info-overload and the urge to make (yet more) changes in my 99% 235. I think I'll resist the urge to start switching brake lines, relays etc so that I can get flying. My fuel solution is a bit different from others mentioned. I have no header, a 4-way fuel selector (L,R,Both,$ off), and two elec.pumps connected in parallel with individual filters. I'm designating one as the primary and the other as boost for take off. I'd prefer one was mechanical but.... Fuel line in cockpit are flame resistant Goodyear 3/8 (blue, don't have the part # handy) available from hydraulic supply shops. Very light, durable, and only ~$1.50/ft. I seem to be spending more time shovelling snow this week than plan finishing but hope to hang the wings for keeps next week. Don 235-360 Fuel & misc Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 12/29/1998 - 11:29 From: <TByrnes133 [at] aol.com> Subject: 235-360 Fuel & misc Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:29:05 EST To: <Lancair.List [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Tristan You mentioned that you do not have a header tank and that you have a fuel selector that has positions for R - L - Both and off. A both position in a low wing aircraft is considered dangerous by the FAA and not allowed in a certified low wing aircraft because if one tank unports or runs dry before the other one the fuel pumps would suck air even though fuel is present at the other port. I have been flying a Lancair 290 for some 7 years without a header tank and do not have a both position on my selector for this reason. Another problem I encountered while testing was that I originally had the electric fuel pump installed after the Gasgolator like the manual shows and I ran into some funny problems. First I experienced what appeared to be vapor lock. Second the primer would not work right because it would not fill up all of the way because there was no pressure at the input to the Gasgolator ( No Header Tank) After checking around I found that with a low wing and no header tank the electric pump needed to be installed before the Gasgolator to pressurize the gasgolator. I changed mine by installing it in the cabin on the fire wall. It now stays cool (no Vapor Lock Problem) and the primer works fine. Now that I am building a Lancair IV I found that thats how they do it too. Please consider changing your fuel selector to a R-L and off only or at least Placard to not use both for take off and landing or when the fuel level is below about 7 or 8 gal in either tank. Regards Tom Byrnes N133TB
235-360 Fuel & misc Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 12/29/1998 - 11:29 From: <TByrnes133 [at] aol.com> Subject: 235-360 Fuel & misc Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:29:05 EST To: <Lancair.List [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Tristan You mentioned that you do not have a header tank and that you have a fuel selector that has positions for R - L - Both and off. A both position in a low wing aircraft is considered dangerous by the FAA and not allowed in a certified low wing aircraft because if one tank unports or runs dry before the other one the fuel pumps would suck air even though fuel is present at the other port. I have been flying a Lancair 290 for some 7 years without a header tank and do not have a both position on my selector for this reason. Another problem I encountered while testing was that I originally had the electric fuel pump installed after the Gasgolator like the manual shows and I ran into some funny problems. First I experienced what appeared to be vapor lock. Second the primer would not work right because it would not fill up all of the way because there was no pressure at the input to the Gasgolator ( No Header Tank) After checking around I found that with a low wing and no header tank the electric pump needed to be installed before the Gasgolator to pressurize the gasgolator. I changed mine by installing it in the cabin on the fire wall. It now stays cool (no Vapor Lock Problem) and the primer works fine. Now that I am building a Lancair IV I found that thats how they do it too. Please consider changing your fuel selector to a R-L and off only or at least Placard to not use both for take off and landing or when the fuel level is below about 7 or 8 gal in either tank. Regards Tom Byrnes N133TB
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