Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/02/1999 - 21:37 Forums: LML Archive From: Marvin Kaye <marvkaye [at] olsusa.com> Subject: LC20 fuel systems Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 16:37:29 -0500 To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Posted for Ken Harwood <kenharw [at] flash.net>: FUEL SYSTEMS REVISITED. Hi Gang, I've been reading about the different fuel systems in the Lancair 320-360-235 with some interest. The point is well taken that with fuel selector to BOTH mains has its drawbacks. This condition will result in the engine driven pump or the fuel boost pump located on the firewall sucking air instead of fuel as soon as one of the main tanks empties or otherwise allows air to replace fuel in the lines. This problem can be remedied if both facet pumps are allowed to run when fuel gets low in both of the tanks. The facet pumps pump gasoline much better than they do air, so the tank that still has fuel in it will still feed and overcome the small amount of air the opposite pump is trying to pump. Another point, if your gas gauges show one tank is feeding faster than the other, just turn off the facet pump for the low reading tank. My Lancair 360 has three fuel tanks. I use a selector switch that selects either header tank or both wing tanks. I do not have the capability of feeding from just one wing tank using only the selector switch; however, I can choose which main tank I feed from by use of the facet pumps. If I turn off the right facet pump the engine gets its fuel from only the left tank, and vice versa. I do not burn out of the header tank normally so as to keep it full and in reserve and to keep the weight and balance more forward. As long as that tank is full I know I have at least 40 minutes of fuel to find a place to land in case of total electrical failure. I actually have what is in the header tank and what is in the lowest wing tank available at all times. If the electrical system is OK I can burn every last drop of useable fuel. I tested this system thoroughly during flight testing in 1992, by burning ALL useable fuel out of one tank by turning off one facet pump and leaving the other on. The tank feeding the facet pump that was on emptied totally and the engine started sputtering. All I had to do was turn on the other facet pump and everything was fine again, except I had one heck of a lot of aileron trimming to do to account for all that fuel on one side and none on the other. Another point. Always leave the facet pumps in the lines from the wing tanks should you decide to stray from the company layout. They serve three purposes: 1. They act as one-way valves so that fuel will not drain to the low side of the airplane and thus spill out the vent in case you are parked on a slope with one wing lower than the other. 2. They are positive pressure boost pumps and will not cavitate until all fuel in that line is gone. 3. They are required at higher altitudes to prevent cavitation in the fuel lines on warm days when the fuel under suction wants to vaporize. I run my facet pumps continually above 7,000 ft. In the summer and above 9,000 ft. In winter. The fuel injected engine does poorly under low fuel pressures. One final thought: Consider putting one-way valves in the wing tank vent lines to prevent fuel spillage during sharp turns and full tanks. Just remember, there has to be some way to allow for fuel expansion when the airplane is left out in the sun, so drill #50 or #60 holes in the diaphragm of the one-way valves to allow air to escape (and a little fuel too if the tanks are full). This modification is almost imperative if your wing fuel goes all the way to the end of the wings. I now have 570 hours on my 360 and fuel management is a dream, not a chore. Ken LC20 Fuel systems Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/03/1999 - 13:24 From: <TByrnes133 [at] aol.com> Subject: LC20 Fuel systems Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:24:55 EST To: <Lancair.List [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To: Charles Keller I have been flying my Lancair 290 for 6 Years (350 Hrs) without a header tank and have never had a problem. I installed a rib with a flapper valve at the BL 60 I also put in a bulkhead parallel to the spar about 6 inches rear of the spar to help keep it from unporting with the nose down. The BL60 rib and the bulkhead parallel to the spar are sealed off completely except for a vent hole at the top of the BL60 rib and the flapper valve at the low point of the BL60. I have a fuel selector that select R L and off no both I have tested this system extensively and it will not unport until the tank is down to about 1 Gal and then only with cross controls to make it unport. With fuel levels above 1 Gal it will not unport. I don't however, ever let the tank that I am on go below about 5 Gals when I am in the takeoff or landing mode. Tom Byrnes N133TB
LC20 Fuel systems Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/03/1999 - 13:24 From: <TByrnes133 [at] aol.com> Subject: LC20 Fuel systems Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:24:55 EST To: <Lancair.List [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To: Charles Keller I have been flying my Lancair 290 for 6 Years (350 Hrs) without a header tank and have never had a problem. I installed a rib with a flapper valve at the BL 60 I also put in a bulkhead parallel to the spar about 6 inches rear of the spar to help keep it from unporting with the nose down. The BL60 rib and the bulkhead parallel to the spar are sealed off completely except for a vent hole at the top of the BL60 rib and the flapper valve at the low point of the BL60. I have a fuel selector that select R L and off no both I have tested this system extensively and it will not unport until the tank is down to about 1 Gal and then only with cross controls to make it unport. With fuel levels above 1 Gal it will not unport. I don't however, ever let the tank that I am on go below about 5 Gals when I am in the takeoff or landing mode. Tom Byrnes N133TB
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