Some changes to the LML

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From: Marvin Kaye <marvkaye [at] olsusa.com>
Subject: Some changes to the LML
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:07:03 -0400
To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com>

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Hi everyone,



Well, here we are, working on our 29th week of the LML and I'm pleased to

report that it is growing steadily (we're up to almost 250 subscribers now,

a more than 150% increase since day one), the information-value level of

posts submitted for approval keeps achieving new heights, and the

participation statistics indicate that better than 40% of the subscribers

actually are posting and taking an active part in its success.  It would be

truly wonderful if the other 60% of us would offer up a post every now and

again, as message traffic and variety are the stuff of a truly successful

newsletter.



I've had the good fortune to meet many of you personally and always enjoyed

my visits, and I look forward to meeting more of you personally in the

future.  For the moment, though, I'm thankful to everyone with whom I've

had the privilege of corresponding without meeting face-to-face, and hope

that one day in the not-too-distant future we'll all get to know each other

better.  



With that said, it's time to get on with the real purpose of this post.  As

you are all well aware, the LML has grown from a small, few-posts-per-day

entity, into one that sees days with an average of eight but as many as

15-20 individual posts showing up in any given 24 hour period.  As such,

the archives are growing at a pace that surprises even me, and the

management tasks required to keep it all flowing smoothly have grown

accordingly.  I've been relatively happy with the service of the existing

web-based archiver, although there are problems with it that I've been

unable to solve even with weekly posts to the archive administrator begging

help to get them solved.  Consequently the web archives are soon going to

be migrated to a new host whose service appears a bit more reliable and

whose formatting is a bit more user friendly.  Along with the migration to

the new web-server, I'll be going through the entire list and cleaning up

all the subjects which were listed as "Lancair List Volume X Issue Y" and

reassigning them with more meaningful subject titles so threading will

happen properly, and data searches will respond with more meaningful results.



In addition to the web archives, I've been cleaning up the textfile

archives to try to eliminate the long-line/short-line problems that show up

when they're viewed with web browsers, a not-inconsiderable task I assure

you.  There are about 1200 posts to review and I've managed to get through

about 150 of them to date.  Phew!



I've also got several megabytes of builders' tips that I intend to get

incorporated into the LML Attachments section, things that I've managed to

glean from my longtime association with Compuserve's AVSIG homebuilders'

section, and which should prove interesting to most of you out there

looking for tips and hints not available elsewhere.  Additionally I keep

receiving tidbits from many of our subscribers and those items are showing

up in the Attachments section as I get to them.  Once again, if any of you

have something you'd like to share, please send it to me at your

convenience and I'll get it posted ASAP.



I've just completed a major update to the LML homepage

(http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html), with the inclusion of

the mission statement of the LML and a considerable update to the list

posting guildelines.  Please stop by when you have a chance and read it

through, I think you'll find it interesting and informative.  Naturally, if

you feel that I've missed something I'd be happy to hear from any of you

with suggested additions or improvements.  (To those of you out there

without web access, please send me a note and I'll pass along the textfile

version of the LML homepage so you can see its contents.)



What with all of this going on, and with the intent of providing even more

services in addition to those which are presently available (I'm trying to

get the complete library of Lancair Service Bulletins online... I'll let

you know how it works out as I get along with it) I find it necessary to

ask you, the membership, for a small contribution to help take some of the

heat off and provide me with the means to keep this endeavor afloat.  What

I'm asking for is a modest $35.00 annual subscription contribution...

that's less than 10c/day for the right to continue receiving the LML and

get full access to all of the archives and attachments that accompany the

LML.  As an added benefit to those of you out there who are also

subscribers to the Lancair Network News, I'm offering a $5.00/year discount

to LNN subscribers, the discount is being subsidized and sponsored by Jim &

Lynda Frantz as a way of saying thanks from them to you for your continued

support of the LNN and the LML as well.  Thanks, Jim and Lynda, your offer

and support is appreciated by all of us, I'm sure.



I am unfortunately unable to accept credit card contributions but am

pleased to accept personal checks or money orders drawn in US funds.

Please send your contributions to Marvin Kaye, 209 Labelle Avenue, E. Fort

Myers, FL, 33905-2521, USA.  It is imperative that you write your LML

subscription email address either on your remittance or included on a

separate note with it, as all of the LML records are keyed on email address

and not your actual name.  Once I receive your remittance I'll confirm with

an email and pass along your LML username and password which will grant you

access to the LML archives and attachments.  Subscriptions will run

annually through the end of the month during which your contribution is

received.  To those of you who have already been kind enough to send a

little something along, please just make up the difference between your

original contribution and the $35 (or $30 for those of you who subscribe to

the LNN) and your subscription will be extended to the end of the month in

which your difference-contribution is received.



My sincerest thanks goes out to all of you for your continued participation

and support of the Lancair Mail List, I look forward to our taking the

list, together, to even greater heights.  



   <Marv>



PS... if, for any reason, you would like to respond to this post, please do

so directly to me at my email address, that being marvkaye [at] olsusa.com.

Thanks again. <M>

Some changes to the LML

From: John Cooper <heyduke [at] digital.net>
Subject: Some changes to the LML
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:53:45 -0400
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Marv and everyone--



I think the $35 annual subscription fee is well worth it, and I will be

sending mine in shortly. 'Bout time you started getting paid for all your

hard work, Marv!



For all you builders who are reluctant, just remind yourself what you have

gained be reading that ONE message that solved or made you aware of a

possible problem ...probably hundreds or thousands of dollars or many hours

of pondering ...or maybe even something more valuable...



If I had my druthers, I wish we would all migrate back to AVSIG on

Compuserve where the threading is better and the library was searchable by

keyword - but that costs $120 per year and probably isn't going to happen.

OTOH, there are many more Lancair builders here than there ever were on AVSIG.



Thanks again Marv for putting this together--



--John, L-235 <radio stack mode>

Some changes to the LML

From: Marvin Kaye <marvkaye [at] olsusa.com>
Subject: Re: Some changes to the LML
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:10:20 -0400
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I received a post from Ed Armstrong <ed [at] testelectronics.com> which included

the following:



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I sent in my $30. I hope everyone does, I've seen what you've done without

getting paid. I can only imagine what you can do with a little help. You

are still going to send and post e-mails from those that don't send money

in though right? I'm thinking that a lot of the people overseas, and those

who finished their plane may not participate, but I would still like to

write to them and hear from them every day.

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It is not my intention to summarily and unceremoniously remove anyone's

email address from the subscription list who doesn't constribute to the

cause.  Folks who don't send something along are still welcome (and

ecouraged) to post their thoughts, questions, opinions, and experiences to

the LML anytime they have the urge to do so.  They will continue to receive

the daily postings of other members and are free to use that information as

they see fit.  They will be restricted from using the archives or accessing

members' files which reside on the LML homepage, but that's about it...

other than that the LML will go on as usual for them as it will for

contributing masses.  I hope that the folks that Ed mentioned (our overseas

subscribers and those of you out there with completed projects) will

continue to participate either way.  



I also hope that this clears up that one little point and will allow us to

get on with the business at hand.  Keep those posts flowing!!



   <Marv>