Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 11/09/1998 - 08:01 Forums: LML Archive From: Graham <grahamn [at] mpx.com.au> Subject: Lights, sensors Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:01:19 +1100 To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I have read various submissions re landing lights but have more questions - have the light systems discussed been used for their intended purpose ie landing at night as opposed to flashing them to increase aircraft visibility - if so are they satisfactory. I have extended wingtips with about 12 inches removed and winglets fitted to these (L360) and would really like to have a taxi light and landing light in the inboard end of each tip. This limits me to a max of about 3 inches diameter. I have tested some rectangular section 100W halogen lamps (with all the surplus metal and plastic removed) but I am not happy with the light output. However testing on the ground may not be indicative of their performance in the air which is why I am looking for some practical experience. What is the size of the GE 12v 50W units mentioned (and is 50w adequate)? Does anyone have a good starting point for the angle the lights have to be set at so that they may actually illuminate something useful (like the runway) first time out. The latest Lancair Mail newsletter has a 360 on page 10 belonging to Cliff Carse and Marv Vanderpool with neat looking round 100w halogens mounted to the gear legs - does anyone know of these or alternatively where these guys can be contacted. I am also constructing my own "glass cockpit" with 2 or 3 displays run by 2 Pentium 233 computers - ultimately I would like to advance this to the point where the primary gyros are replaced (or possibly include some 2.25" standby instruments). My question is does anyone know of any light weight solid state sensors or other neat technology that would supply pitch and roll data for the typical ranges and rates experienced in a 360. I have considered DGPS with sensors at the extremities but unfortunately the 1 sec update rate is a bit slooooow. Many years ago there was an electrostatic autopilot developed using radio controlled gliders as the test bed - it used mildly radioactive pads at the wingtips, nose and tail and actually sensed the difference in the Earth's magnetic field between sensors. Don't know what happened to this technology but surely in this electronic age there must be something out there. Re separate plenum chambers for cooling, what construction methods have been used (all glass, glass top with metal sides, all metal etc etc etc). How much clearance has been kept from the cowling on top of the plenum?, how has intercylinder movement been catered for? Graham Nutt (grahamn [at] mpx.com.au) Lights, sensors Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 11/10/1998 - 00:47 From: Marvin Kaye <marvkaye [at] olsusa.com> Subject: Re: Lights, sensors Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:47:06 -0500 To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Graham Nutt wrote: >... I have tested some rectangular section 100W halogen lamps (with >all the surplus metal and plastic removed) but I am not happy with the light >output. There are lots of alternatives out there to the enclosed self-reflected 50-100 watt halogens that were discussed before. I'm certain that the reflector-equipped 50-55 watters will be more than adequate for recognition lights (I could see the light disk at the other end of the shop, 40 feet away, when tested during daylight hours), but think that more penetration and intensity is in order for landing and taxi lights... there is a projector style fog lamp which uses a standard H-3 halogen bulb available out there, with a focusing lens up front and a reflector built into the housing. The unit as provided from sources such as JC Whitney includes a standard 55watt H3 bulb, but a 130 watt replacement lamp is available for just a few bucks, and would undoubtedly more than suffice to light up the runway/taxiway as required. Request a catalog from http://www.jcwhitney.com and look on p58 for the lamp units (#81KX1058R or 1059X)(4" long x 3" diameter), and p60 for the replacement lamps (#12KX3254W). Your local speed/off-road shop might also have all these parts in stock as well. Just remember that 130w is an 11amp load at 12 volts, and is going to generate considerable heat... even the 50 watters get too hot to hold in just a few moments. I think some ventilation would be in order if these things are going to be buried in the wingtips. <Marv>
Lights, sensors Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 11/10/1998 - 00:47 From: Marvin Kaye <marvkaye [at] olsusa.com> Subject: Re: Lights, sensors Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:47:06 -0500 To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Graham Nutt wrote: >... I have tested some rectangular section 100W halogen lamps (with >all the surplus metal and plastic removed) but I am not happy with the light >output. There are lots of alternatives out there to the enclosed self-reflected 50-100 watt halogens that were discussed before. I'm certain that the reflector-equipped 50-55 watters will be more than adequate for recognition lights (I could see the light disk at the other end of the shop, 40 feet away, when tested during daylight hours), but think that more penetration and intensity is in order for landing and taxi lights... there is a projector style fog lamp which uses a standard H-3 halogen bulb available out there, with a focusing lens up front and a reflector built into the housing. The unit as provided from sources such as JC Whitney includes a standard 55watt H3 bulb, but a 130 watt replacement lamp is available for just a few bucks, and would undoubtedly more than suffice to light up the runway/taxiway as required. Request a catalog from http://www.jcwhitney.com and look on p58 for the lamp units (#81KX1058R or 1059X)(4" long x 3" diameter), and p60 for the replacement lamps (#12KX3254W). Your local speed/off-road shop might also have all these parts in stock as well. Just remember that 130w is an 11amp load at 12 volts, and is going to generate considerable heat... even the 50 watters get too hot to hold in just a few moments. I think some ventilation would be in order if these things are going to be buried in the wingtips. <Marv>
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