Static Ports

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From: <Sky2high [at] aol.com>
Subject: Static Ports
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:23:22 EDT
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Rob,



I started out with a Piper blade heated pitot/static out on the wing mounted

to the aileron access door.  That gave me indicated airspeeds too low.  I

then switched to an enormous chromed heated pitot/static at the same location

-- that gave me IAS's too high and a twitchy altimeter.  I finally used the

heated pitot, but changed the static to the locations recommended by Lancair

on both sides of the airplane.  IAS is now accurate and the altimeter is

accurate and steady.



Scott Krueger

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From: <RWolf99 [at] aol.com>
Subject: Re: Static Ports
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:13:03 EDT
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In a message dated 10/5/0 10:24:55 PM, you wrote:



<<I finally used the

heated pitot, but changed the static to the locations recommended by Lancair

on both sides of the airplane.  IAS is now accurate and the altimeter is

accurate and steady. >>



Scott -



The error you are describing is called "position error" and is the difference

in static pressure at the static port compared to the acutal ambient pressure

in the air through which the airplane is flying.  I think you know all this.



We (Air Force Flight Test Center) measured this error not by IAS errors, but

by indicated altitude errors, since a pressure error shows up much bigger on

the altimeter rather than on the airspeed indicator.  We then used

mathematical formulas to transform the altitude error into an airspeed error.



Of course, in those days we didn't have GPS for groundspeed measurements....



- Rob Wolf

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From: <Sky2high [at] aol.com>
Subject: Static Ports
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:39:56 EDT
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Rob, et al,



Static port position error is determined by testing a proposed site against a

site yielding true pressure.  Lacking any test equipment with true static

pressure available, such as CAFE uses, we try other techniques.  As you

pointed out, airspeed is only useful to determine that there is error in the

pitot/static system, not where it lies.  Flying formation with a buddy in a

certified plane helps check the static data (within FAA required sloppiness).

 It turns out that the Piper-style blade had position error for both ram and

static readings, but the readings were steady.  The giant chrome pitot/static

had static ports in the top and bottom of the tube.  It was very sensitive to

attitude and must have been operating in a slightly turbulent area beneath

the wing, leading to a very twitchy altimeter needle.  Those static ports

were definitely in the wrong place.  Lancair's recommended location,

utilizing both sides of the airplane, yielded no static "position" error.  

Then the pitot location was determined to be accurate at the speeds tested by

comparing true airspeed against the average GPS groundspeed resulting from

flying the legs of a triangle (120 deg turns, constant altitude).



Ask me what time it is and I will tell you how an hourglass works.



Scott Krueger

N92EX

  

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From: Jon Hadlich <hackmo15 [at] gmail.com>
Sender: <marv [at] lancaironline.net>
Subject: static ports
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:42:29 -0500
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http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/in/staticports/staticport.php
These are the static ports I recommend. Glue in after paint. Very nice looking. Positive attachment of static lines with 1/8" npt threads. Stick up to disturb boundary layer.


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From: Jon Hadlich <aisystems15 [at] gmail.com>
Sender: <marv [at] lancaironline.net>
Subject: static ports
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:35:40 -0400
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I recommend this type of static port .port.http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/in/staticports/staticport.php
I also recommend not glassing the tubing and fittings, If it leaks during the 91.411-IFR cert- it's very hard to deal with. Secure with tywraps and enclose in some kind of box or channel for protection.

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From: Stevens Family <stevens5 [at] swiftdsl.com.au>
Sender: <marv [at] lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] static ports
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:22:30 -0400
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Jon,

 

Thanks for the information. These look really neat.

 

What did you screw into the thread to join to the tubing, and what tubing did you use?

 

Rob.

 

 

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Sent: Friday, 15 August 2014 11:36 PM
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Subject: [LML] static ports

 

I recommend this type of static port .port.http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/in/staticports/staticport.php

I also recommend not glassing the tubing and fittings, If it leaks during the 91.411-IFR cert- it's very hard to deal with. Secure with tywraps and enclose in some kind of box or channel for protection.

 

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