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A STORY ABOUT NOT PURCHASING AN AIRPLANE: N346RS
I was attracted to a Lancair when the price was reduced and the seller would consider a trade as part of the transaction. Over a number of weeks, I negotiated with Cathy who turned me over to her mechanic, Bob, with whom I who would be negotiating. Bob and I ultimately came to a deal, my Cessna 340 plus cash, where I would deliver the plane to western Missouri, retain the Garmin 530 from the Cessna and get the Lancair. I said I would send a deposit, bob said no deposit needed. his word was golden I found this slightly odd; but concluded that I was the buyer and even if I had a deposit and a written agreement. I could get held up when I arrived from the east coast. My thinking was that they are a seller and they need to sell. My first step: I hired a local mechanic recommended by bob. He pulled the plugs and did a leak down test which showed good compression OK he then did a boroscope of all six cylinders. Rust in all of them and one cylinder scored from what appeared to rust flakes. Not a great surprise, based on the fact of how few hours on the engine and the length of time since manufacture. remember that Lycoming puts two limits on TBO. First is the one we are most familiar with and that is the number of hours of use. The other is number of years since overhaul. Rust and general deterioration of gaskets and materials being the reason. (usually 12 years) Second step I hired a first class test pilot to go to Missouri and do a pre-buy and fly the plane. The report came back that, it was an excellent build and flew as one would expect a Lancair 4P to fly. It did have squawks; when I got there It turned out that Bob was the original owner and builder. And, bob, referring to legal minds said that the title of the airplane would have to be first transferred to himself from cathy and then to myself. Checking the plane bob asked how I would start the engine. he said that that would never work. Here's what you have to do: crack the throttle mixture off high boost pump quick count of three with the mixture in, pull it out immediately turn key and will start and slowly feed in the mixture to keep it running ODD? After that explanation, I checked the exhaust stacks and found them to be very black sooty. WHY? I do not know. I thought that what would I do if I had to do a restart in the air. It was one more matter of concern. Remember, I am about to strap myself into this thing and fly 1,000 miles. We proceeded to unload my Cessna and load the Lancair; as the final step, I started to remove the Garmin 530 from the panel, bob said stop, didn't you get my email three days ago he said that the wording suggested that the Garmin was no longer included in the transaction. I said that was not our original deal (the one that was sealed with my word is my bond it was ultimately suggested that for $5,000, I could keep the Garmin. I felt like I had been punched in the face. I had spent over $4,000 at this point between the inspection and fuel to get there, based on my word is my bondAnd it would be another 180 gallons of fuel to get home. So ultimately, I said no to the extra $5,000. in every deal there is good and bad. I felt that I had reached my limit and I was concerned that there could be other issues that were known to bob that he was not telling. I have no proof of such a thing, but when you no longer trust someone, you have to assume there may be other reasons. what worried me in the end was what was truth. Bob was the builder of the plane and had sold it to Cathy in 2008. and as the finally, the plane was going back into Bob's name prior to the sale to me?? it felt a little like Africa; a NGO or foreign government comes in and builds a first class, first world facility and then turns it over to the local government, who just use it. When some portion of the property fail, it stays failed until less and less works. Think about it. A wonderful build of the airframe, but.... HYDRAULIC PUMP cycles ever 90 secondssolution;do nothing AOA, did not stop talkingsolution: disconnect STEP, kept breaking cablessolution: remove GAS GAUGE, display failedsolution: ignore RUST IN CYLINDERSsolution: ignore this airplane is a project in my opinion, I would expect to spend the next 100 hours sorting the plane out; troubleshooting the existing issues and dealing with the new ones that will inevitably arrive. Oh yea, do a top overhaul now. I agree that these people, whoever the real owner is, have had a hard time. Over $600,000 spent on the build. They have been trying to sell it since 2008. Someone does a $20,000 annual, for what? On a airplane with 67 hours. Someone agrees to sell the plane for them, doesn't; and then refuses to give the plane back. The law suit costs $100,000 to get the plane back, with no recovery of legal fees and of course bob flew a heliocopter into this Lancair when this Lancair had 18 hours since new. (I believe that the repair was first class) ultimately I resented terribly being held up for an additional $5,000. but more than that, I felt that I could not trust these people at all and what other unknown awaited me as I flew the plane away. In a way I expected some kind of holdup because I was traveling so far; what I did not count on the deal being changed at the very last moment of the transaction. And that the balance of good and bad was shifting towards bad. And the blurry perspective that I had of the seller(s) truth. And if you have no faith in the seller, do you want to die finding out what you do not know. In my opinion, The only realistic way to buy this plane is to take it to immediately to a repair location. Put $20,000 on the table and start fixing it. Then spend a bunch of time flying local in VFR conditions to work out the bugs in the systems and the new surprises that one would expect in a new build. One final concern would be spalling of the lifters and the potential damage to the camshaft. When doing the top overhaul, checking for internal rust that would necessitate a full teardown of the engine peter |
A STORY ABOUT NOT PURCHASING AN AIRPLANE: N346RS
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A STORY ABOUT NOT PURCHASING AN AIRPLANE: N346RS
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A STORY ABOUT NOT PURCHASING AN AIRPLANE: N346RS
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